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questions about your reply to my 4/17 post Dian Saturday, April 26, 2014

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Hello Bro Ignatius,

thank you many times again for replying and your patience towards me and others.

I had questioned on 4/17 in this forum about diocese and my call regarding deliverance healing ministries in this area. it was for others as well as myself, but his condition, as I perceived, it was the catalyst for me calling diocese. I mentioned a man recently returned to faith who was complaining about bad dreams and began seeming distressed ....now this man has suddenly shunned me and turned his back on me without explanation. he is also a neighbor, and we have special mass offered each Sunday in community we live in.

The situation has become.... the larger parish I felt to move away from now lives at my door. I am struggling to just stop going to any Mass here in this area, its a rural area, I feel to just stay in my apt.

Bro Ignatus....I am a (presently inactive) professional health care worker - I thought my concern was about this man only and I felt compassion for him having difficulties coming back to church. then I became his enemy? now I feel it is about me as well....my call to diocese.

If I could be assured these things are the devil, God allows for salvation of our soul, and just - is this the whole purpose?- to keep our eyes on Jesus and Mary- no matter what is going on around us....just walk through the troubles and storms....Jesus does tell us as well as the Saints and Apostles

Main reason I've stopped working for now was harassment. Now I am feeling concerned about where I live. My world is getting smaller. I wonder if God wants me to just move completely away....is there something He wants me to do elsewhere? these questions I am only pondering, for only God knows. Or ...I think of what Jesus was telling Peter John and James in the garden on night of betrayal ...."stay, watch, pray"....

Thank God we have other ways of communication. I thank God for your ministry.

Also, in regards to what I wanted to give up for Lent was my "self"- I in no way am able to do so, just I thought the best thing to give up is ones pride and self focus...because it is not coffee or chocolate that gets in the way- how much closer could I move to God who waits right there for us. So, the more I pray for this grace, the more I see how much my pride gets in the way in so many situations. now I think this pride is sin. 

thank you Bro Ignatus and God Bless.

Prayers for your comfort and strenght,Dian

P.S. yesterday, Divine Mercy Sunday, I prayed in room where we were to meet. I went beforehand, I was alone, asking St Michael for his intercessions and was sprinkling holy water around the room. Suddenly a voice, deep and loud, came from the man I have spoken of, he came walking into room then quickly out again.....he said "who gave you the power to do this?" I continued praying for intercession of St Michael and did not answer or reply to him, and continued sprinkling holy water rest of room. I feel the oppression I was experiencing is gone for now.

I have prayed for the man and if opportunity arises will pass on your contact information.

God Bless you Bro Ignatius and your ministry.
Dian



Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OMSM(r), CCL, LTh, DD, LNDC

Dear Dian:

Sorry for the delay in responding.

I'm sorry to hear that the man you tried to help has turned on you. But, this is not uncommon. It happens quite frequently that the people we try to help will turn around and bite us. Welcome to the club.

In general, in situations like this it is better not to do things "on behalf" of others who are in need of help. It is best to give that person the resources for them to check out on their own. In this case, that would mean suggesting to the person to call the diocese rather than you calling the diocese for him.

We often have concerned people contacting us about loved ones or friends who may find themselves in trouble because of occult or demonological issues. We tell those concerned people to have the person in trouble contact us directly. One of the reasons for that is that if the person is not willing to contact us directly than they probably do not have the commitment to do what is necessary for them to be freed and delivered. One cannot help somebody who does not want to be helped.

Thus, the better course of action would have been for you to suggest to the man that he call the diocese himself. When approaching the issue in this way it sometimes can deflect the anger that we get from people we are trying to help. There is no guarantee of that, but at least the person is helping himself, with no one to blame but himself should things not go the way he wishes. More importantly, it places the responsibility on the person to help himself — to seek the help himself. If a person is not willing to take responsibility for himself he will not only fail to be healed but will resent those who tried to help him by doing things for him.

As for the incident on Divine Mercy Sunday you acted correctly by not answering him and continuing to pray. And, you should continue to pray for him.

The feelings of withdrawal that you are experiencing do not come from God. Those feelings are psychological, and probably a symptom of depression. I don't know what you mean by "the larger parish I felt to move away from now lives at my door" except that it may be an expression that you feel like things are closing in on you, which is also evidenced by your comment, "My world is getting smaller."

I do not believe that God causes us depression in order to get us to move or to do something that he wants. A good father does not deliberately cause depression in his children. Now, God can and does bring something good out of the lemons that we lay in our own lives. He will make sweet lemonade from those lemons, but he does not cause the lemons.

I suggest that you seek out a mental health professional, preferably at Catholic counselor who can help you with these feelings.

On the subject of the parish itself, and your relationship with it, sometimes we have to accept the fact that we cannot be involved in our parish other than to receive the Sacraments. One can quietly come to the Holy Mass, receive the Eucharist, and then after Mass quietly leave. One can quietly come to the parish to receive the Sacrament of Confession, and then quietly leave. It is not required to be involved in any activities, groups, or meetings at the parish. It is nice to be involved, but it is not required. Our participation in the Sacraments, however, is required.

Any thoughts to not go to the Holy Mass because of how one is treated by other parishioners, or any other problems at the parish, do not come from God. Such thoughts either come from our depression, or they come from the devil, or a combination of both. We must resist those thoughts and attend to the Sacraments as we ought. Without the Sacraments we do not have friendship and intimacy with God and we do not have the spiritual strength to cope with our problems. Thus, do not forsake the Sacraments under any circumstances.

Especially in situations where there may not be another parish more nurturing to us in the area, we certainly must take the approach of "stay, watch, pray" and in offering up of our suffering to God for the salvation of souls, for the healing of a parish, or other such things. In such circumstances we must accept our suffering as mortification for our souls, which God will honor us by strengthening us in our spirit and our faith.

On the subject of giving up self you state, "I wanted to give up for Lent was my "self"- I in no way am able to do so." This is a thinking error. If one was not able to give up self then God will not ask us to do so. Since God asks us to do this we can know for certain that it is possible. It is a matter of us making a decision of will to mortify our pride, and then to practice those things which lead us away from pride into humility.

Yes, pride is a sin. It is the first sin on the list of capital sins. Capital sins are those which engender many other sins. Nearly every sin and mistake we make can be traced to pride in some fashion. I suggest that you read and say the prayers contained in our pamphlet, Dealing with Pride (pdf file). 

We will be praying for you.

God Bless,
Bro. Ignatius Mary


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