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Crystals, minerals, and gemstones.	Catherine	Tuesday, August 12, 2008
Question: Hello again, second question, I thought I would post separately not to confuse these two issues. I have been a mineral and gemstone enthusiast and collector since I was a kid, the first time I bought some gemstones as a souvenir from Disneyland. I was never raised religious, and have not started seeking Christ until April of this year. Anyhow I have an extensive collection of rare minerals, gemstones (polished) and crystals (rough/natural). As of finding Christ I have no longer taken an interest in them for "healing" purposes. I received a message in thought that they were essentially useless. But I still keep them because if my scientific interest in them. Just as background: I have been a spiritual seeker my whole life, not being raised religious I was free to examine any faiths/practices/beliefs that I wanted and over the years have examined or practiced almost everything under the sun. This includes occult practices such as tarot, astrology, palm reading, meditation, crystal healing, and crafting magical objects such as wands. But I must admit I have never really taken any or most of these things seriously. I have always had serious doubts as to whether any of it was real, but just took an interest in them casually... Now I have read several of the posts on this board in relation to crystals and your instructions on destroying them. Personally I have no intention whatsoever of destroying my specimens as I consider them as such, useless, mineral specimens. What are your thoughts? It seems to me that despite the propensity for people to Believe that these items have magical or other powers/metaphysical properties I personally having had almost a decade and a half experience with the ideology believe there is no such thing. Further I think the lack of interest or intention would render such things inannimate, and further that it would be superstition and bogus belief to think that they held such powers or abilities to bring through demons or other things. While I believe evil exists, and can very well attack us as spiritual beings, I cannot believe that a crystal necklace (such as was mentioned in a previous post) or my own very large mineral collection can provide a "portal" for such things. Can you provide any specific doctrine or evidence as relates to this subject of minerals? I have read the catechism regarding sorcery and magical/occult practice. I would also like to assure you that I have recently taken the steps to rid my home of any specifically occult items as I deemed to be so. With the exception of my minerals, and a few handmade wooden staffs which I just felt were decorative items... Again your advice would definitely be appreciated, perhaps I have taken things lightly and put myself into danger as a result.
Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OLSM Dear Catherine: Thanks for posting twice. It is always best to keep each post to one theme. Also I praise God that you are seeking Him. You will not regret it. Coming under the wing of our Lord Jesus Christ is the best thing you can do. My primary concern with that you have posted is the casual way you refer to your occult involvement. Catherine, in terms of the occult involvement it does not matter whether or not you took it seriously. Occult involvement places bondage upon you even if your involvement was "casual." The devil could care less if you are not taking it seriously. To play in Satan's sandbox WILL result in Satan's sand in your shoes. You need to confess the sin of this occult involvement, if you have not already done so, AND renounce this activity and take back the ground that Satan gained in your life as a result of your occult involvement. You can find a Renouncement Prayer in the SW Catalog linked below. As for crystals, minerals, and gemstones, these items are natural materials of the earth. There is nothing occult or evil about them in-and-of-themselves. Like any object, these materials can be used improperly or even with evil, but the objects itself are not evil; crystals, minerals, and gemstones are morally neutral. There is nothing wrong with a collection of crystals, minerals, and gemstones, but... ...if you used any of these objects in an occult way, then those objects need to be cleansed and blessed so as to remove any demonic attachment that might be upon them. Lastly, to the topic of getting rid of the objects I am not saying you must do that. But, I am concerned about your refusal to even entertain the idea. If these objects cause you to have demonic bondage then you need to rid of them. Which is more important, the crystals or your soul? None of us are to be so attached to anything that we would refuse to get rid of it when it is prudent to do so. Such an attachment gets in the way of our devotion to God. I am NOT saying you must get rid of these things, I am just commenting on the danger of your attitude of refusal to do so if it were needed. Jesus said that if our eye offends us to pluck it out...that it is better to have one eye than to go to hell. We are to have nothing in our way in our devotion to God. If something does get in our way, then we need to get rid of it, no matter what it is. If your collection has been cleansed of any demonic attachments that might have been applied if you used them in occult healing and the like, AND you are not attached to them like Lot's wife was attached to Sodom and looked back, AND the objects do not lead you back or tempt you to go back to their occult use, AND if they are not an ocassion for bondage, AND if they do not get in the way of your focus and devotion of God, then it is okay. God Bless, Bro. Ignatius Mary For information on how to receive help see our Help page. We suggest that before contacting us directly for help you try the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance. These self-help steps will often resolve the problem. Also our Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog contains many prayers that may be helpful. If needed you can ask for a Personal Consultation.

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Crystals, minerals, and gemstones.

Catherine

Tuesday, August 12, 2008

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Hello again, second question, I thought I would post separately not to confuse these two issues.

I have been a mineral and gemstone enthusiast and collector since I was a kid, the first time I bought some gemstones as a souvenir from Disneyland. I was never raised religious, and have not started seeking Christ until April of this year. Anyhow I have an extensive collection of rare minerals, gemstones (polished) and crystals (rough/natural). As of finding Christ I have no longer taken an interest in them for "healing" purposes. I received a message in thought that they were essentially useless. But I still keep them because if my scientific interest in them.

Just as background: I have been a spiritual seeker my whole life, not being raised religious I was free to examine any faiths/practices/beliefs that I wanted and over the years have examined or practiced almost everything under the sun. This includes occult practices such as tarot, astrology, palm reading, meditation, crystal healing, and crafting magical objects such as wands. But I must admit I have never really taken any or most of these things seriously. I have always had serious doubts as to whether any of it was real, but just took an interest in them casually...

Now I have read several of the posts on this board in relation to crystals and your instructions on destroying them. Personally I have no intention whatsoever of destroying my specimens as I consider them as such, useless, mineral specimens. What are your thoughts?

It seems to me that despite the propensity for people to Believe that these items have magical or other powers/metaphysical properties I personally having had almost a decade and a half experience with the ideology believe there is no such thing. Further I think the lack of interest or intention would render such things inannimate, and further that it would be superstition and bogus belief to think that they held such powers or abilities to bring through demons or other things. While I believe evil exists, and can very well attack us as spiritual beings, I cannot believe that a crystal necklace (such as was mentioned in a previous post) or my own very large mineral collection can provide a "portal" for such things.

Can you provide any specific doctrine or evidence as relates to this subject of minerals? I have read the catechism regarding sorcery and magical/occult practice. I would also like to assure you that I have recently taken the steps to rid my home of any specifically occult items as I deemed to be so. With the exception of my minerals, and a few handmade wooden staffs which I just felt were decorative items...

Again your advice would definitely be appreciated, perhaps I have taken things lightly and put myself into danger as a result.

Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OLSM

Dear Catherine:

Thanks for posting twice. It is always best to keep each post to one theme. Also I praise God that you are seeking Him. You will not regret it. Coming under the wing of our Lord Jesus Christ is the best thing you can do.

My primary concern with that you have posted is the casual way you refer to your occult involvement. Catherine, in terms of the occult involvement it does not matter whether or not you took it seriously. Occult involvement places bondage upon you even if your involvement was "casual." The devil could care less if you are not taking it seriously. To play in Satan's sandbox WILL result in Satan's sand in your shoes.

You need to confess the sin of this occult involvement, if you have not already done so, AND renounce this activity and take back the ground that Satan gained in your life as a result of your occult involvement. You can find a Renouncement Prayer in the SW Catalog linked below.

As for crystals, minerals, and gemstones, these items are natural materials of the earth. There is nothing occult or evil about them in-and-of-themselves. Like any object, these materials can be used improperly or even with evil, but the objects itself are not evil; crystals, minerals, and gemstones are morally neutral.

There is nothing wrong with a collection of crystals, minerals, and gemstones, but...

...if you used any of these objects in an occult way, then those objects need to be cleansed and blessed so as to remove any demonic attachment that might be upon them.

Lastly, to the topic of getting rid of the objects I am not saying you must do that. But, I am concerned about your refusal to even entertain the idea. If these objects cause you to have demonic bondage then you need to rid of them. Which is more important, the crystals or your soul?

None of us are to be so attached to anything that we would refuse to get rid of it when it is prudent to do so. Such an attachment gets in the way of our devotion to God.

I am NOT saying you must get rid of these things, I am just commenting on the danger of your attitude of refusal to do so if it were needed.

Jesus said that if our eye offends us to pluck it out...that it is better to have one eye than to go to hell.

We are to have nothing in our way in our devotion to God. If something does get in our way, then we need to get rid of it, no matter what it is.

If your collection has been cleansed of any demonic attachments that might have been applied if you used them in occult healing and the like, AND you are not attached to them like Lot's wife was attached to Sodom and looked back, AND the objects do not lead you back or tempt you to go back to their occult use, AND if they are not an ocassion for bondage, AND if they do not get in the way of your focus and devotion of God, then it is okay.

God Bless,
Bro. Ignatius Mary

For information on how to receive help see our Help page. We suggest that before contacting us directly for help you try the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance. These self-help steps will often resolve the problem. Also our Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog contains many prayers that may be helpful. If needed you can ask for a Personal Consultation.