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human nature for its ownsake	Maria	Sunday, February 22, 2009
Question: Would like your valuable opinion on this topic - that God loves human nature for its own sake and not just us humans , that He took it up for Himself - loving it enough even at its tiniest, its weakest and its most painful and not just becuase we humans had sinned and made a terrible specter of our nature that He 'had to ' become human to restore it to the dignity it was meant to be ! Reason this might be important is - it seems to be the 'earth that opened its mouth ', to swallow the torrent of water spewed by the dragon - that our Father did n't consider us , our human nature worthy enough to share His diviity with us ! And the innate joy that comes from grasping this truth,( my Papa loves my nature for Himself too , not just for /because of my poor pitiful self !)- would it not be the antidote for our pride that wants to puff up and control out of some percieved lack ! And is this not the one truth that sets us apart from all the pagan lies (that take the stand of how pitiful we humans are) -with no truth of any God loving our human nature so very much ! . Thank you for prayers and your response.
Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OLSM Dear Maria: Sorry for the delay in responding. If I am understanding you correctly I am afraid these thoughts expressed in your post are flirting with heresy. If you are reading this from some book, then you need to throw out that book. If these are you own speculations then I encourage you to re-think this and conform your thinking to what the Church says about this topic. We often get in trouble when we stray away from what the Church plainly says and venture into speculation. Human nature cannot be separated from the human person. Human nature is "the human as such, having a body and soul, capable of rational thought and voluntary decision" (Catholic Dictionary). Human nature is the essence of the human person. Our human soul is ordered toward the body. There is a temporary separation of body and soul at death, which is reunited at the resurrection at the end of the age. God created the human person with a human nature as an act of love. Within our nature the Creator imbued a rational and immortal soul in His own image. He loves his children, not just their nature. Because God loves us (not our nature apart from us, but us, who we are, the human person) he incarnated as one of us (He has made the features of his human body his own -- CCC 447) and assumed human nature (CCC 440). He became human, without ceasing to be God, one Divine Person with Two Natures (one divine, one human), and was human in all things except sin. God's love is for all that we are, nature, mind, body, and soul. As such, at the end of the world our bodies will be reunited with our souls because our souls are ordered to our bodies. God does love us "because of my poor pitiful self". If He didn't, then he wouldn't love me. Do we love our children for they nature for its own sake, or do we love our children because they are our children, in wholeness, of everything they are mind, body, and soul? God love us for our sake and because of that He came among us and died on the Cross to pay the penalty of sin to allow us the opportunity to spend eternity in His friendship. Roman 5:8 says: "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." He loves us, not merely our nature; He died for us -- not merely for our nature. A human person apart from a human nature (body, mind, soul) is not a human. He love us despite our pitifulness. We are His children and what Father does not love his child in wholeness and entire body, mind, and soul? Our natures are wounded because of orginal sin, but God loves us anyway. Thus, we say at Mass, "Lord I am not worthy, but only say the word and I shall be healed." God said the word. Logos is Greek for "word". Jesus is the Logos, the Word, the Word of God, through which we are healed body, mind and soul. God Bless, Bro. Ignatius Mary For information on how to receive help see our Help page. We suggest that before contacting us directly for help you try the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance. These self-help steps will often resolve the problem. Also our Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog contains many prayers that may be helpful. If needed you can ask for a Personal Consultation.

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human nature for its ownsake

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Sunday, February 22, 2009

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Would like your valuable opinion on this topic - that God loves human nature for its own sake and not just us humans , that He took it up for Himself - loving it enough even at its tiniest, its weakest and its most painful and not just becuase we humans had sinned and made a terrible specter of our nature that He 'had to ' become human to restore it to the dignity it was meant to be !

Reason this might be important is - it seems to be the 'earth that opened its mouth ', to swallow the torrent of water spewed by the dragon - that our Father did n't consider us , our human nature worthy enough to share His diviity with us !

And the innate joy that comes from grasping this truth,( my Papa loves my nature for Himself too , not just for /because of my poor pitiful self !)- would it not be the antidote for our pride that wants to puff up and control out of some percieved lack !

And is this not the one truth that sets us apart from all the pagan lies (that take the stand of how pitiful we humans are) -with no truth of any God loving our human nature so very much !
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Thank you for prayers and your response.

Question Answered by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OLSM

Dear Maria:

Sorry for the delay in responding.

If I am understanding you correctly I am afraid these thoughts expressed in your post are flirting with heresy. If you are reading this from some book, then you need to throw out that book. If these are you own speculations then I encourage you to re-think this and conform your thinking to what the Church says about this topic. We often get in trouble when we stray away from what the Church plainly says and venture into speculation.

Human nature cannot be separated from the human person. Human nature is "the human as such, having a body and soul, capable of rational thought and voluntary decision" (Catholic Dictionary). Human nature is the essence of the human person. Our human soul is ordered toward the body. There is a temporary separation of body and soul at death, which is reunited at the resurrection at the end of the age.

God created the human person with a human nature as an act of love. Within our nature the Creator imbued a rational and immortal soul in His own image. He loves his children, not just their nature.

Because God loves us (not our nature apart from us, but us, who we are, the human person) he incarnated as one of us (He has made the features of his human body his own -- CCC 447) and assumed human nature (CCC 440). He became human, without ceasing to be God, one Divine Person with Two Natures (one divine, one human), and was human in all things except sin. God's love is for all that we are, nature, mind, body, and soul. As such, at the end of the world our bodies will be reunited with our souls because our souls are ordered to our bodies.

God does love us "because of my poor pitiful self". If He didn't, then he wouldn't love me. Do we love our children for they nature for its own sake, or do we love our children because they are our children, in wholeness, of everything they are mind, body, and soul? God love us for our sake and because of that He came among us and died on the Cross to pay the penalty of sin to allow us the opportunity to spend eternity in His friendship.

Roman 5:8 says: "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." He loves us, not merely our nature; He died for us -- not merely for our nature. A human person apart from a human nature (body, mind, soul) is not a human. He love us despite our pitifulness. We are His children and what Father does not love his child in wholeness and entire body, mind, and soul?

Our natures are wounded because of orginal sin, but God loves us anyway. Thus, we say at Mass, "Lord I am not worthy, but only say the word and I shall be healed." God said the word. Logos is Greek for "word". Jesus is the Logos, the Word, the Word of God, through which we are healed body, mind and soul.

God Bless,
Bro. Ignatius Mary

For information on how to receive help see our Help page. We suggest that before contacting us directly for help you try the Seven Steps to Self-Deliverance. These self-help steps will often resolve the problem. Also our Spiritual Warfare Prayer Catalog contains many prayers that may be helpful. If needed you can ask for a Personal Consultation.